Narnia, Chronicle of Narnia

Sunday, December 17, 2006

Re: [thelionscall] wow

Has anyone else noticed that the Lamb at the end of DT is serving fish, just
like Jesus when he greets Peter and others after when they are out fishing
after his resurrection?

Kristi the Fisherdess
"There does not seem to be much chance of their meeting again in that world
or any other. But if ever they do they will rush together with their hands
held out." - The Voyage of the Dawn Treader

>From: Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimself@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: thelionscall@yahoogroups.com
>To: thelionscall@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [thelionscall] wow
>Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:26:28 -0800 (PST)
>
>Yes, I got the wrong name. Good catch.
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Lea Maria <Lea_Maria@rocketmail.com>
>To: thelionscall@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:41:00 AM
>Subject: Re: [thelionscall] wow
>
>
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>
> Just a reminder: Tha candidate in question who had to be
>de-dragoned,
>
>was Eustace, not Edmund :)
>
>
>
>--- Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimsel f@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > No, it's not a symbol.
>
> >
>
> > But it does remind one of salvation. Not baptism, although his being
>
> > thrown into the lake after being de-dragoned does seem reminscient of
>
> > baptism. The whole de-dragoning process has alway reminded me of
>
> > salvation, however. For when we try to remove our own sin, just like
>
> > Edmund trying to skin himself, we ultimately fair and we can never
>
> > succeed. Christ must do for us what we are not capable of doing for
>
> > ourselves, just as Aslan had to remove the dragon for him. It was
>
> > then, and only then, that Edmund was allowed to get into the water,
>
> > just as baptism is only for those already cleansed of their sins.
>
> >
>
> > I don't know how much of that Lewis even intended. Maybe none of
>
> > that was intentional, but it is an interesting parallel nonetheless.
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message ----
>
> > From: Lewis Fan <fan.lewis@gmail. com>
>
> > To: thelionscall@ yahoogroups. com
>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:16:44 PM
>
> > Subject: Re: [thelionscall] wow
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> > Hi there! I also joined recently this form and really
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> > didnt get it at first. I really like the VotDT. I read the 7 books
>
> >
>
> > in a row and by the time I finished this was maybe the one I
>
> > remembered liking the most. I really like the conversion of
>
> > Edmund...his desperation when he is a dragon and the transformation
>
> > itself when he rips away his skin, isn`t it a symbol which reminds us
>
> > of baptism, getting ourselves in a new clothing, dying to our own
>
> > self and being rebore?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 12/16/06, Lea Maria <Lea_Maria@rocketma i l.com> wrote:
>
> >
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> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > That's still an excellent story - even if the Biblical themes are too
>
> > obvious in some people's opinion. There are plenty of deep symbolic
>
> > stuff woven in the storyline. :)
>
> >
>
> > For me, it's like a description of our spiritual journey & the
>
> > dangers
>
> >
>
> > & temptations we face on our way to our destiny. Of course, ALL of
>
> > the
>
> > Narnia books are about spiritual life, but the VoDT even more aptly
>
> > so.
>
> >
>
> > Beginning with Eustace & his transformation process & how he becomes
>
> >
>
> > part of the team... and King Caspian and his own struggles &
>
> > temptations; of course Lucy is not excempt of them either... :) It's
>
> > maybe the most interesting plot of all the CoN, spare the Last
>
> > Battle....
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimse l f@yahoo.com
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Ah, yes, that one.
>
> > >
>
> > > Well, I'm sorry to have to break this to you, but in many ways,
>
> > it's
>
> > > the least symbolic of all the books. I am avoiding using the word
>
> > > allegorical, because
>
> > C.S. Lewis hated allogories, said Narnia wasn't
>
> > > one, and swore he'd never write one. He did, over course, write a
>
> > > few later on, but the Narnia series are not allegories.
>
> > >
>
> > > That being said, this book does have many things that definitely
>
> >
>
> > > remind us of things of the Bible, particular in the scenes
>
> > involving
>
> > > Aslan, as that character really is supposed to be a representation
>
> > of
>
> > > Christ.
>
> > >
>
> > > ----- Original Message ----
>
> > > From: Diana Bustos <
>
> > navy_saphire@ yahoo.com>
>
> > > To:
>
> > thelionscall@ yahoogroups. com
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> > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:08:04 PM
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> > > Subject: Re: [thelionscall] wow
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> > > yeah, you are right! I should've been more specific. I
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> > > was talking about The Voyage of the Dawn Trader. It is my favourite
>
> > > and I would love to know your opinion about it. Thanks for writing
>
> >
>
> > > back.
>
> > >
>
> > > Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimse l f@yahoo.com> escribi�:
>
> > > And which fifth book do you refer too? There are two,
>
> >
>
> > > depending on which numbering system you are
>
> > > using.
>
> > >
>
> > > ----- Original Message ----
>
> > > From: Dyana <navy_saphire@
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> > yahoo.com>
>
> > > To: thelionscall@ yahoogroups. com
>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:04:04 PM
>
> > > Subject: [thelionscall] wow
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi everyone, I just found this group and I joint. I really love
>
> >
>
> > > Lewis
>
> > > writings and I 'm thinking of many possible ways to analize the
>
> > seven
>
> > >
>
> > > books (you know which books). I really would like to have a
>
> > > discussion
>
> > > about the 5th book (it one of my favorites) for I do consider it
>
> > has
>
> >
>
> > > the most elements to be related with the Bible. Please, if you are
>
> > > interested contact me. Bye
>
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>
>
>
> "To err is human. To forgive, divine"
>
>
>
> "There's nothing that spoils the taste of good ordinary food half so
>much as the memory of bad magic food."
>
>C.S. Lewis: -The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
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Re: [thelionscall] wow

Yes, I got the wrong name.  Good catch.

----- Original Message ----
From: Lea Maria <Lea_Maria@rocketmail.com>
To: thelionscall@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:41:00 AM
Subject: Re: [thelionscall] wow

Just a reminder: Tha candidate in question who had to be de-dragoned,
was Eustace, not Edmund :)

--- Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimsel f@yahoo.com> wrote:

> No, it's not a symbol.
>
> But it does remind one of salvation. Not baptism, although his being
> thrown into the lake after being de-dragoned does seem reminscient of
> baptism. The whole de-dragoning process has alway reminded me of
> salvation, however. For when we try to remove our own sin, just like
> Edmund trying to skin himself, we ultimately fair and we can never
> succeed. Christ must do for us what we are not capable of doing for
> ourselves, just as Aslan had to remove the dragon for him. It was
> then, and only then, that Edmund was allowed to get into the water,
> just as baptism is only for those already cleansed of their sins.
>
> I don't know how much of that Lewis even intended. Maybe none of
> that was intentional, but it is an interesting parallel nonetheless.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lewis Fan <fan.lewis@gmail. com>
> To: thelionscall@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:16:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [thelionscall] wow
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi there! I also joined recently this form and really
> didnt get it at first. I really like the VotDT. I read the 7 books
>
> in a row and by the time I finished this was maybe the one I
> remembered liking the most. I really like the conversion of
> Edmund...his desperation when he is a dragon and the transformation
> itself when he rips away his skin, isn`t it a symbol which reminds us
> of baptism, getting ourselves in a new clothing, dying to our own
> self and being rebore?
>
>
>
>
> On 12/16/06, Lea Maria <Lea_Maria@rocketma i l.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's still an excellent story - even if the Biblical themes are too
> obvious in some people's opinion. There are plenty of deep symbolic
> stuff woven in the storyline. :)
>
> For me, it's like a description of our spiritual journey & the
> dangers
>
> & temptations we face on our way to our destiny. Of course, ALL of
> the
> Narnia books are about spiritual life, but the VoDT even more aptly
> so.
>
> Beginning with Eustace & his transformation process & how he becomes
>
> part of the team... and King Caspian and his own struggles &
> temptations; of course Lucy is not excempt of them either... :) It's
> maybe the most interesting plot of all the CoN, spare the Last
> Battle....
>
>
>
> --- Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimse l f@yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Ah, yes, that one.
> >
> > Well, I'm sorry to have to break this to you, but in many ways,
> it's
> > the least symbolic of all the books. I am avoiding using the word
> > allegorical, because
> C.S. Lewis hated allogories, said Narnia wasn't
> > one, and swore he'd never write one. He did, over course, write a
> > few later on, but the Narnia series are not allegories.
> >
> > That being said, this book does have many things that definitely
>
> > remind us of things of the Bible, particular in the scenes
> involving
> > Aslan, as that character really is supposed to be a representation
> of
> > Christ.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Diana Bustos <
> navy_saphire@ yahoo.com>
> > To:
> thelionscall@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:08:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [thelionscall] wow
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> > yeah, you are right! I should've been more specific. I
> > was talking about The Voyage of the Dawn Trader. It is my favourite
> > and I would love to know your opinion about it. Thanks for writing
>
> > back.
> >
> > Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimse l f@yahoo.com> escribió:
> > And which fifth book do you refer too? There are two,
>
> > depending on which numbering system you are
> > using.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Dyana <navy_saphire@
> yahoo.com>
> > To: thelionscall@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:04:04 PM
> > Subject: [thelionscall] wow
> >
> > Hi everyone, I just found this group and I joint. I really love
>
> > Lewis
> > writings and I 'm thinking of many possible ways to analize the
> seven
> >
> > books (you know which books). I really would like to have a
> > discussion
> > about the 5th book (it one of my favorites) for I do consider it
> has
>
> > the most elements to be related with the Bible. Please, if you are
> > interested contact me. Bye
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
>
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Re: [thelionscall] wow

Just a reminder: Tha candidate in question who had to be de-dragoned,
was Eustace, not Edmund :)

--- Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimself@yahoo.com> wrote:

> No, it's not a symbol.
>
> But it does remind one of salvation. Not baptism, although his being
> thrown into the lake after being de-dragoned does seem reminscient of
> baptism. The whole de-dragoning process has alway reminded me of
> salvation, however. For when we try to remove our own sin, just like
> Edmund trying to skin himself, we ultimately fair and we can never
> succeed. Christ must do for us what we are not capable of doing for
> ourselves, just as Aslan had to remove the dragon for him. It was
> then, and only then, that Edmund was allowed to get into the water,
> just as baptism is only for those already cleansed of their sins.
>
> I don't know how much of that Lewis even intended. Maybe none of
> that was intentional, but it is an interesting parallel nonetheless.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lewis Fan <fan.lewis@gmail.com>
> To: thelionscall@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:16:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [thelionscall] wow
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi there! I also joined recently this form and really
> didnt get it at first. I really like the VotDT. I read the 7 books
>
> in a row and by the time I finished this was maybe the one I
> remembered liking the most. I really like the conversion of
> Edmund...his desperation when he is a dragon and the transformation
> itself when he rips away his skin, isn`t it a symbol which reminds us
> of baptism, getting ourselves in a new clothing, dying to our own
> self and being rebore?
>
>
>
>
> On 12/16/06, Lea Maria <Lea_Maria@rocketmai l.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's still an excellent story - even if the Biblical themes are too
> obvious in some people's opinion. There are plenty of deep symbolic
> stuff woven in the storyline. :)
>
> For me, it's like a description of our spiritual journey & the
> dangers
>
> & temptations we face on our way to our destiny. Of course, ALL of
> the
> Narnia books are about spiritual life, but the VoDT even more aptly
> so.
>
> Beginning with Eustace & his transformation process & how he becomes
>
> part of the team... and King Caspian and his own struggles &
> temptations; of course Lucy is not excempt of them either... :) It's
> maybe the most interesting plot of all the CoN, spare the Last
> Battle....
>
>
>
> --- Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimsel f@yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Ah, yes, that one.
> >
> > Well, I'm sorry to have to break this to you, but in many ways,
> it's
> > the least symbolic of all the books. I am avoiding using the word
> > allegorical, because
> C.S. Lewis hated allogories, said Narnia wasn't
> > one, and swore he'd never write one. He did, over course, write a
> > few later on, but the Narnia series are not allegories.
> >
> > That being said, this book does have many things that definitely
>
> > remind us of things of the Bible, particular in the scenes
> involving
> > Aslan, as that character really is supposed to be a representation
> of
> > Christ.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Diana Bustos <
> navy_saphire@ yahoo.com>
> > To:
> thelionscall@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:08:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [thelionscall] wow
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> > yeah, you are right! I should've been more specific. I
> > was talking about The Voyage of the Dawn Trader. It is my favourite
> > and I would love to know your opinion about it. Thanks for writing
>
> > back.
> >
> > Daniel Himes <catwhowalksbyhimsel f@yahoo.com> escribió:
> > And which fifth book do you refer too? There are two,
>
> > depending on which numbering system you are
> > using.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Dyana <navy_saphire@
> yahoo.com>
> > To: thelionscall@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:04:04 PM
> > Subject: [thelionscall] wow
> >
> > Hi everyone, I just found this group and I joint. I really love
>
> > Lewis
> > writings and I 'm thinking of many possible ways to analize the
> seven
> >
> > books (you know which books). I really would like to have a
> > discussion
> > about the 5th book (it one of my favorites) for I do consider it
> has
>
> > the most elements to be related with the Bible. Please, if you are
> > interested contact me. Bye
> >
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"God is opposed to the proud, but gives grace to the humble." James 4:6

"To err is human. To forgive, divine"

"There's nothing that spoils the taste of good ordinary food half so much as the memory of bad magic food."
C.S. Lewis: -The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe

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