RE: [thelionscall] Dawn Treader
It's not just talking beasts. There aren't any dwarves or any other creatures either. You could argue that most would not be suitable to the sea, but then there are the naiads and mermen who both would be perfect for a sea voyage. I think the real reason was Lewis's basing the whole adventure on the old tales of the sea.
"O. Daniel Stanley" <dstanley@zbc.edu> wrote:
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"O. Daniel Stanley" <dstanley@zbc.edu> wrote:
Yes, that's a given. However, my thought was that since in the new Narnia under the reign of Caspian X, talking beasts were given equal status with humans. And yet it seems that there is only one talking beast who has taken sail in this adventure.
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Talking beasts are only shown to come from inside the boarders of the country of Narnia itself, although they can travel and live outside if they choose. Calormen and Telmar, for instance, has none, and Archenland only has talking beasts they hired from Narnia. Since the entire adventure takes place outside of Narnia, its no wonder.
Brook Ogle <brivagook224@yahoo.com> wrote:
Perhaps the Aslan in our world ;-) inspired the artist to with a picture of this other-worldly ship in his mind's eye, knowing it's future purpose? I have usually thought that the painting was more of a non-specific picture of a ship, and that the details of the Dawn Treader didn't appear until they actually went into the picture.
I never really thought about the lack of talking beasts in this book, but you're right! I guess I was appeased by the other characters who wouldn't be found in out world, such as the dufflepuds, the dragon (who never talked... right?), Ramandu and his daughter... The Mer-people who Lucy sees towards the end seem to qualify more as people than beasts. Maybe the animals they ride and shepherd (don't have my book with me at the moment, so I can't remember exactly what they are... seahorses maybe?) are talking beasts, but they just couldn't carry on a conversation due to the water barrier?
~Brook~
"O. Daniel Stanley" <dstanley@zbc.edu> wrote:
I�m rereading Dawn Treader right now and 2 things strike me as unusual:
*** There is an old picture in Eustace�s house of that someone painted of the Dawn Treader. Where did this picture come from? If it was a Narnian painter, they would have had to go back in our time to deliver it here. If it was a painter from our world, he/she would have had to go forward in time to see the ship and then back in time to return to our world. We know that there is no strict connection between our time and Narnian time, but this is the only example of being able to go backwards in time from Narnia to England.
*** Other than Reepicheep and Aslan, there is an amazing lack of talking beasts in this book.
Just some thoughts,
Dan
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